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TRANSCRIPT OF
DOORSTEP INTERVIEW BY THE FOREIGN SECRETARY,
MR ROBIN COOK,
AND THE SPANISH
FOREIGN MINISTER,
MR ABEL MATUTES,
LONDON, WEDNESDAY,
10 DECEMBER 1997

BRUSSELS PROCESS TALKS ON GIBRALTAR

FOREIGN SECRETARY:
The Foreign Ministers of Britain and Spain held a meeting in London on 10 December, the 11th formal session of the Brussels process, to discuss Gibraltar. The talks took place in a friendly and constructive atmosphere. The Spanish set out their ideas of a general outline for a legal, political and economic framework for Gibraltar including sovereignty issues. The British side listened carefully to the Spanish presentation and recalled its commitment to respect the wishes of the people of Gibraltar as enshrined in the preamble to the 1969 constitution. It was agreed that the coordinators of the Brussels process would meet to carry forward their work. Under discussion as well as the Spanish ideas would be any proposals from the Gibraltarians together with British proposals for increased economic cooperation.

QUESTION:
Could the Foreign Ministers please give a message for the people of Gibraltar, the heroes of the longstanding Gibraltar problem?

FOREIGN SECRETARY:
For Britain there can be no compromise on the principle of sovereignty against the wishes of the people of Gibraltar and I have repeatedly expressed the view that it is important that the people of Gibraltar should never again be put under siege and that we should try and build a positive relationship. That is why, as part of the process, Britain would wish to table proposals that will assist in economic cooperation and help in building confidence and trust.

MR MATUTES:
The question of Gibraltar has now been outstanding for many years and over that period it has been tackled in various instances including the United Nations. In all proposals for a solution to this, Spain and the United Kingdom have been urged to tackle the question of decolonisation on the basis of the principle of the territorial integrity of states. In this process decolonisation is the primary consideration.

For Spain, it has always been of the greatest importance to take account of and indeed to satisfy the rights of the people of Gibraltar in such a manner that Spain does not dispute the right of Gibraltarians to be British or to be Spanish, if they wish to be Spanish, or to enjoy both nationalities simultaneously if that is their preference. Neither does Spain dispute the right of Gibraltar to enjoy the fiscal and customs advantages that it currently enjoys. We hope to offer an opportunity to the Gibraltarian people to plan their future prosperity on a reasonable and hopeful basis and that is precisely the reason why we have made these proposals.

QUESTION:
After the recent comings and goings over the integration of Spain into the military structure of NATO, will you be able to state that Britain has not a strategic self-interest in Gibraltar as Peter Brooke stated about Northern Ireland in years gone by?

MR MATUTES:
The question for me is do we accept Gibraltar as a financial offshore centre? My answer is clearly yes under the rules and the directives of the European Union, which of course demand more transparency in the way to deal with the centres but the offshore status is clearly accepted by Spain in this proposal.

FOREIGN SECRETARY:
Tonight was a discussion on the Brussels process which arises from an agreement made by the previous Conservative Government in the 1980s. It relates to the political and constitutional status of Gibraltar and the NATO issues therefore are separate from it.

However, to respond to your question, Gibraltar is a valuable military asset for Britain and therefore to NATO. However, what motivates the British Government in its approach to Gibraltar is our respect for the democratic wishes of the people of Gibraltar and it is fulfilling our duty to them that is the national interest of Britain, in respecting their wishes we discharge our national interest.

ENDS


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